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289: Cultivating Customer Champions; with Greg Skirving

About this episode

What if a “ticket” isn’t a ticket at all, but an engagement where both sides own the outcome? We sit down with Greg Skirving to unpack how customer champions transform support from reactive break fix to a partnership that moves faster, learns faster, and pays off across the business.

Greg has lived every stage of the customer journey—sales, implementation, and support—so he brings a pragmatic lens to what works. We dig into the two traits that define a true champion—willingness and capability—and the concrete practices that build both: targeted training, version discipline, spare and hot-swappable parts, and clear runbooks. You’ll hear how Greg’s “Our Most Successful Customers Do This” handoff reframes expectations, sets troubleshooting ground rules early, and empowers customers to handle tier one and two issues confidently.

We also talk about the signals champions surface for customer success and product: emerging use cases, recurring failure modes, and real-world constraints that drive smarter roadmaps. Expect a candid look at metrics, too. When champions grow, ticket volume falls while complexity rises—TTR can increase even as overall outcomes improve. Learn how to tell that story to your leadership and why it matters in an AI-augmented queue.

If you want fewer how-to tickets, faster resolution on the hard stuff, and a stronger renewal story, this conversation is your playbook. Subscribe, share with your team, and leave a review with your best champion win or question—we’ll feature our favorites in a future episode.

Greg Skirving

Transcript

Charlotte Ward: 0:13

Hello and welcome to episode two hundred and eighty nine of the Customer Support Leaders Podcast. I'm Charlotte Ward. Today, welcome Greg Skirving to talk about cultivating customer champions. Today, um, I'd like to welcome back Greg Skirving. Greg, um, my goodness, it's been a long time since you and I talked on the podcast, right? About five years, I think we figured out.

Greg Skirving: 0:45

Um, yeah, five long years, I think, as it were.

Charlotte Ward: 0:48

So some of them were definitely long, I would agree with that. Seeing as it has been so long, would you please reintroduce yourself?

Greg Skirving: 0:58

Absolutely. Um yeah, Greg Skerving, like you said, um been uh um been in all three phases, uh customer-facing phases with technology companies for uh a few decades now. Um I I have sold, I have implemented, but home is uh home is support once uh once uh uh technology, the application, whatever is sold uh to uh to customers and it's it's implemented the way they like. I like to take care of them and uh and make sure that they uh you know uh well, like I say, um it's my job to make customers want to stay, renew their contract, buy more and be reference accounts.

Charlotte Ward: 1:47

So you really have seen the uh the customers at every stage of the journey, then. Yeah. Yeah.

Greg Skirving: 1:54

That helps from a customer standpoint and internally as well.

Charlotte Ward: 1:58

Actually, it really does help internally to get uh, and this would be like my advice as well, even if you don't work in those other functions is make friends with those other functions, get comfortable talking about those other functions' goals and uh and how you can support them because then you'll get the support as well, right? Um that's a podcast in its own right, but that's not what we're here to talk about today, is it? Maybe you can come and do that one another time, but we're talking about customer champions today, right?

Greg Skirving: 2:27

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